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Savage model 12 Long Range Precision (.22-250 Remington)

 
February 28, 2008

I finally picked up my Savage 12LRPV in .22-250 Rem. today. It seemed like it took forever to arrive. Now I can hold and admire it all I want. I have plenty of time to look it over, so here are some of my opinions and things I noticed.

The 12LRPV is extremely heavy, weighing in at 12 lbs. stripped, most of this weight is in the barrel. The barrel is 26", has a straight contour, and is a full 1" in diameter; most varmint guns have barrels that measure about .820" or less at the muzzle. Most .22-250s usually have a 1:14" twist in the barrel, this one has a 1:12" twist for better stabilization of slightly heavier bullets. The barrel is also fully free-floated, so none of it is in contact with the stock, eliminating pressure points. As you can guess, this is not a gun to carry around if you like to cover a lot of ground on your feet. Off of a bipod or sandbag, though, the barrel-heaviness of this gun should decrease the normal muzzle jump of a .22-250 substantially. The barrel of this gun is also extremely smooth, with no machining marks on the crown or rifling. The barrel looks like quality, and had better be, for $950.

The stock is an HS-Precision, hence the name "Long Range Precision", and is made off an extremely durable material. The action is bedded to a full-length aluminum bedding block in the stock with triple pillar bedding. The three screws run through the aluminum and pull the action down on top of it, so there is metal-on-metal contact, and no stress on the stock itself. The choice of composite is designed for performance, not for looks. Wood may warp or change with temperature or humidity changes, composite will not. Unlike most other composite stocks, the feel is not smooth, but lightly textured (not checkered) over the whole stock, giving your hands a relatively good grip. I took a Harris bipod off of my Remington 700 BDL varmint in .222 Rem. and installed on this gun. The bipod fits nicely on the beavertail forend. The only real peeve I have about this stock is the fact it only has one bipod/sling stud, whereas almost all of the other HS stocks have both a bipod and a sling stud. This really is not a big issue, due to the fact that most bipods have a place to mount sling swivels on them.

The action is beefy, with an extremely oversized bolt handle for fast acquisition. The action also makes the gun more of a bipod or benchrest gun, as the bolt handle is on the right and the ejection/loading port is on the left. The bolt can be worked with one hand, while the other hand inserts a cartridge (if the gun is on a bipod, etc.). The ejection/loading port is also only as large as it needs to be in order to accommodate the ammo, increasing the stiffness of the action. The stiffness of the action is also increased due to the fact that this gun is a single shot, with no detachable magazine. If you make the first shot count, you won't need a second, and this gun looks plenty capable.

I still need to buy a scope for this gun, so I haven't been able to evaluate performance yet. I'm going to get a Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50mm with 30mm tube and the Varmint Hunter's Reticle. I'll update this review once I get the scope and shoot the 12LRPV.

June 16, 2008

I finally bought my scope today, the Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50mm Long Range 30mm tube with the Varmint Hunter's Reticle, it really is worth the money. Everything through the scope is crystal clear, and the reticle is just awesome. You can feel the scope adjustment click firmly into place through the target turrets, no play or wobble here. The turrets can also be zeroed for a particular load once you are sighted in. The owner's manual and reticle instruction manual explain everything you'll ever need to know about using the scope and the ballistic reticle. I'll have to get back on performance, because I ordered Talley one-piece scope mounts in high and they haven't arrived yet... $920 more spent, and still no action.

I also bought the Alumina intensifier kit, Alumina 50mm scope cap set, and an Scopesmith 4" sunshade (the 2.5" sunshade that came with the scope wasn't long enough for me). The BZ intensifier works great during low light conditions, the time you usually end up shooting.

June 21, 2008

The Talley one-piece scope rings finally came in and I mounted the scope on the gun almost immediately. The receiver of the rifle and the bottoms of the bases were cleaned with acetone, and Loc-Tite was applied to the mounting screws and the bottoms of the bases. We adjusted the scope for eye-relief, leveled the crosshairs, tightened everything down, and bore-sighted it. By 6:30pm we were ready for evaluation.

I had some cheap starter handloads given to me by my buddy Eric to break in the gun and get on paper with: Win 55gr SPs in Win cases loaded with 33.9gr of IMR 4895 and CCI 200 primers. The overall length of the cartridge was 2.355". If I can help it, this gun will never get factory loads fed through it.

It took me 3 shots to get on target at 25 yds., and then we moved the target out to 110yds. and 3-shot groups were fired. Scope adjustment were made throughout.

 
1st 3-shot group @ 110 yds: 0.844 "
 
2nd 3-shot group @ 110 yds: 0.875"

After 11 shots had been fired, I had made some deductions, I am going to need a pivoting Harris bipod instead of a fixed; and either I really need to fiddle around with loads to come up with a really accurate one, or the barrel hasn't broken in yet.

I also cleaned the gun very well after these shots had been fired as part of the break-in process.

June 23, 2008

Using the same loads as on the 21st of June, I decided to fire a 10-shot group and clean the rifle again. Break-in process.

10-shot group @ 100 yds: 1.438"
5 shots in center hole.
June 28, 2008
Looks like the barrel is startin' to break in after 25 shots (with cleaning sequences). Still using break-in ammo.

 
1st 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.469 "
 
2nd 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.469 "
July 9, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
Win
-
Varget
33.8
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.350
3450 th
-
73.8
100
3+1
0.438
Win
-
Varget
33.8
CCI 200
Hor 52gr AMAX
2.350
3500 th
-
73.8
100
3+1
0.953

 
1st 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.438 "
 
2nd 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.953 "
July 17, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
Win
-
IMR 3031
31.5
CCI 200
Hor 52gr AMAX
2.350
3450 th
-
76.5
100
3+1
0.604
Win
-
IMR 3031
31.5
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.350
3450 th
-
76.5
100
3+1
0.693

 
1st 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.693"
 
2nd 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.604"
August 12, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
Win
-
Varget
31.8
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.400
-
-
70.2
100
3+1
0.422

3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.422 "
August 14, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
Win
-
Varget
33.8
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.400
-
-
75.3
100
3+1
0.783

3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.783"
September 1, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
Win
-
Varget
33.3
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.363
3426 av
-
75.4
100
3
0.14

3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.140"
September 3, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
R&P
1.905
Varget
33.3
BR2
Sie 52gr HPBT
2.363
3222 av
-
71.9
100
3+1
0.890
R&P
1.905
Varget
33.3
BR2
Spe 52gr HP
2.363
3337 av
-
71.3
100
3
0.439

 
1st 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.439"
 
2nd 3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.890"
September 11, 2008




November 3, 2008
Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
R&P
1.905
Varget
34.3
BR2
Spe 52gr HP
2.363
3371 av
32.74
47.1
100
3+1
0.611"

3-shot group @ 100 yds: 0.611"
November 6, 2008

Here are the updates on loads. I am now working with Speer 52 gr. HPs, Varget powder, and CCI BR2 primers.

Case
Case Length
Powder
Grains
Primer
Bullet
C.O.L.
Ft/Sec
ES
Temp.
Yds.
Shots
Group Size
Win
-
Varget
33.3
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.363
3426 av
-
75.4
100
3
0.140
Win
-
Varget
31.8
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.400
-
-
70.2
100
3+1
0.422
Win
-
Varget
33.8
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.350
3450 th
-
73.8
100
3+1
0.438
R&P
1.905
Varget
33.3
BR2
Spe 52gr HP
2.363
3337 av
-
71.3
100
3
0.439
Win
-
IMR 3031
31.5
CCI 200
Hor 52gr AMAX
2.350
3450 th
-
76.5
100
3+1
0.604
R&P
1.905
Varget
34.3
BR2
Spe 52gr HP
2.363
3371 av
32.74
47.1
100
3+1
0.611
Win
-
IMR 3031
31.5
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.350
3450 th
-
76.5
100
3+1
0.693
Win
-
Varget
33.8
CCI 200
Spe 52gr HP
2.400
-
-
75.3
100
3+1
0.783
R&P
1.905
Varget
33.3
BR2
Sie 52gr HPBT
2.363
3222 av
-
71.9
100
3+1
0.890
Win
-
Varget
33.8
CCI 200
Hor 52gr AMAX
2.350
3500 th
-
73.8
100
3+1
0.953
November 29, 2008
Using Hornady's Bullet Comparator and their O.A.L. Gauge, I measured the C.O.L. of the cartridge (with the Speer 52 gr. HPs) off the ogive at 2.097". The jump to the lands is 0.0255". This is almost as good as benchrest specs, with 0.020" being the closest jump to the lands recommended for hunting ammuniton. The standard range is 0.020" to 0.040" from the rifling.
March 19, 2009

All loads were fired out of new R-P brass with Varget powder over CCI BR2 primers. All load testing was done @ 100yds. on a breezy day with a temperature of 51.5 degrees F. Loads were not chronographed, but should theoretically be somewhere around 3600 fps. Both Berger 52gr. Match/Varmint and 52gr. Speer HPs were tested. JTL stands for the jump to the lands, as how close the bullet is seated to the rifling.

Index 14: 0.34"
Index 13: 0.423"
Index 16: 0.622"
Index 15: 0.663"


Index
Case Length
Grains
Bullet
C.O.L.
BC C.O.L.
Shots
Group Size
JTL
14
1.9055
34.7
Ber 52gr HP-MV
2.437
2.088
3
0.34
0.025"
13
1.9055
34.7
Spe 52gr HP
2.375
2.071
3+1
0.423
0.026"
16
1.9055
34.7
Spe 52gr HP
2.362
2.057
3
0.622
0.040"
15
1.9055
34.7
Ber 52gr HP-MV
2.423
2.073
3
0.663
0.040"
March 20, 2009

All loads were fired out of new R-P brass with Varget powder over CCI BR2 primers. All load testing was done @ 100yds. on a slightly breezy day with a temperature of 33.8 degrees F. Loads were not chronographed, but should theoretically be somewhere around 3450 fps. Both Berger 52gr. Match/Varmint and 52gr. Speer HPs were tested. JTL stands for the jump to the lands, as how close the bullet is seated to the rifling.

Index 18: 0.377"
Index 17: 0.427"


Index
Case Length
Grains
Bullet
C.O.L.
BC C.O.L.
Shots
Group Size
JTL
18
1.905
33.3
Ber 52gr HP-MV
2.445
2.098
3
0.377
0.015"
17
1.905
33.3
Spe 52gr HP
2.386
2.077
3
0.427
0.020"
March 25, 2009

All loads were fired out of new R-P brass with Varget powder over CCI BR2 primers. All load testing was done @ 100yds. on a day with a strong variable breeze with a temperature of 36.4 degrees F. Loads were not chronographed, but should theoretically be somewhere around 3450 fps. Both Berger 52gr. Match/Varmint and 52gr. Speer HPs were tested. JTL stands for the jump to the lands, as how close the bullet is seated to the rifling.

Index 19: 0.306"
Index 20: 0.392"


Index
Case Length
Grains
Bullet
BC C.O.L.
Shots
Group Size
JTL
19
1.906
33.3
Ber 52gr HP-MV
2.093
3
0.306
0.020"
20
1.906
33.3
Ber 52gr HP-MV
2.103
3
0.392
0.010"
N/A
1.906
33.3
Spe 52gr HP
2.077
3
0.701
0.020"
April 10, 2009

The load was fired out of new R-P brass with Varget powder over CCI BR2 primers. All load testing was done @ 100yds. on a breezy day with a temperature of 49.2 degrees F. Loads were chronographed, with an average of 3386 fps, an ES of 141.9, and a SD of 55.17 fps. The Berger 52gr. Match/Varmint was tested. JTL stands for the jump to the lands, as how close the bullet is seated to the rifling.

Index 21: 0.292"


Index
Case Length
Grains
Bullet
C.O.L.
BC C.O.L.
Shots
Group Size
JTL
21
1.905
33.3
Ber 52gr HP-MV
2.439
2.093
3
0.292
0.020"

 

Last updated Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:30 AM